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Remapping a CDT with toaf

In light of this program coming out, i thought it would be great to have a place dedicated to Toaf Q&A

Unread postby baconbuttyman » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:12 pm

just to let you know, a member has just remapped his cdt upto 132bhp with Toaf, more details as i get them
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Unread postby Mal7921 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:29 am

I keep meaning to grab the mapping from a 135 CDTi but time is always against me. Will watch and see though
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Unread postby xanadu » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:09 pm

Are there any known plans for this TOAF to be made to work with a ZS 180?

Not saying I am going to do anything with it, but it might be nice to have if it will work. just a random question which is why its here and not on a thread of its own
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Unread postby Mal7921 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:47 pm

No idea if there are plans, but if there are any BMW era ECU's like the 75 then there may well be some compatibility there already.

Can't hurt to try, but there may be a different connection in regards to the cable on the OBD connector (For the 75, pins 7 and 8 need to be shorted together).
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Unread postby baconbuttyman » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:23 pm

the makers are avid R75 fans, so primarily its for them, there are rumors that some 45 owners have got it to work
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Unread postby Mal7921 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:30 pm

KV6Mick wrote:the makers are avid R75 fans, so primarily its for them, there are rumors that some 45 owners have got it to work


Should work with any Diesel unit based on the BMW lump as that will need the same ECU's to manage it.
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Unread postby Civilsteve » Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:04 pm

The L series in the 45 uses a different type of ECU (EDC15m) vs the BMW DDE 4.0 as used in the 75/ZT Although both made by Bosch and as far as i know both use the same control system. i.e Injection quantity controlled by torque limiters/smoke maps/drivers wish/injector calibration tables

I don't think the EDC15m can be easily read off the car, some people resort to de-soldering the chip off the ECU board. There's only one tool I know off that can possibly read via the OBD port but it's a bit mysterious and from a by gone era that uses parallel and serial ports rather than USB

If TOAF can do them then brilliant but my point is theyre not the same.

Likewise the V6 in the 45 uses the Siemens EMS2000 which is a different ecu again to the Bosch manufactured stuff and the MEMS
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Unread postby baconbuttyman » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:26 pm

have you managed to converse with the V6 with your system??
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Unread postby Civilsteve » Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:41 pm

Found which tool I need, just need to get on and buy it along with some other bits. Focusing on mems3 for now though
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Unread postby G7AFM » Fri May 12, 2017 5:04 pm

Just joined forum would be very interested to know how the remap has worked out and any other things that folks have managed to achieve using toaf as not much information coming from any other forums. (shrug)
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Unread postby Mal7921 » Fri May 12, 2017 10:05 pm

Many of the other forums have T4 owners who trade through the club and want to protect that income. Toaf is free while a T4 system is expensive, but Toaf only do 75 and ZT whereas T4's do the whole range.

The group who programmed it have been quiet lately, however on the last update they did say they were working on a complete rewrite to improve the user interface.

If it's available in the ECU to configure, it's available in Toaf. I've had a look around but not had much chance to play with it all as yet. Mick has done a few walk throughs on some of the functions though. I hope to have a look though some bits once the MOT is out of the way
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Unread postby G7AFM » Sat May 13, 2017 9:23 am

Thanks this subject has gone very quite on other forums and as you say those with T4 want to protect that side of things,but again as you say TOAF only suitable for certain makes,so can,t see why they are so against it if any body just buys the T4 system just for ROVER/MG then in my opinion that,s there own stupidity,hope to have a butchers at TOAF later today if cable arrives in the post. ;-)
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Unread postby Mal7921 » Tue May 16, 2017 12:07 am

You know about the mod you may have to do to the cable to get it all to work properly? Mick (Baconbuttyman) did a quick article here which shows which pins you need to short out.

If you can't find it, drop me a PM on here and I'll post some pictures of mine so you can see what you need to do. Just remember though, before fiddling, BACK UP THE EXISTING SETTINGS!!! (Just in case you break something, which is easy to do!)
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Unread postby G7AFM » Tue May 16, 2017 10:22 am

Thanks know about shorting pins 7&8,
Not got the cable yet sent wrong one received service reset tool instead save the hassle will keep that and sent for another cable from different source.
will certainly make sure back ups done before doing any thing.
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Unread postby G7AFM » Sat May 20, 2017 2:47 pm

Any updates on this yet. (snooze)
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Unread postby Mal7921 » Sat May 27, 2017 10:27 am

Not as yet, but now that my part time contract has finished I've had a proper look at some sections of my CDT so will be looking at this and pulling the map from a CDTi soon for comparison.

This unemployment lark is fun, well until the bills come in that is (waaaaaah)
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Unread postby baconbuttyman » Sun May 28, 2017 1:33 am

I will ask Vincent about this, my BMW X5 I believe uses same system so am looking to explore this.my self
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Unread postby Mal7921 » Sun May 28, 2017 11:13 am

May be worth trying Toaf on it to see if it will make a connection
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Unread postby G7AFM » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:18 pm

Any more info on this (mexican wave) (snooze)
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Unread postby COLVERT » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:00 pm

Not that I know of.---The main drop in interest is the rapidly diminishing numbers of R75's on the road.
On the .ORG forum for instance the posts per month in 2010 were around 50,000.

They are now less than 5,000 and dropping rapidly. Other forums show similar or greater drops in posts. The R75 is a rapidly dying breed mores the pity.--- (shrug)

The forum social sides are the glue that keeps some forums alive but that is dropping as folk drift off to Facebook and the like.---Often the social sides become quite un-social so folk get fed up with being abused and just leave never to come back.
Live long and prosper.

Adroitness and sensitivity in dealing with others or with difficult issues ( Tact. ) will always win the war.
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